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Question Partially sighted student

5 months 3 weeks ago #41395 by Kasey
I've just been told that we will be getting a partially sighted student next year.

Does any one know where to get bolder printed books, graph paper etc?

At a reasonably price!

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41396 by TecHKnow
We have such a student. Some resources like books must be sent out to our local printer to enlarge to A3 size and bound. Other resources we have to enlarge inhouse to A3

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41397 by Kasey
I think they've already started that - I hope so anyway

Where do you get exercise books from? Or even bold lined paper for a folder.

And a website to print of graph paper would be ace.

TIA

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41398 by AndyG
Who is dealing with the student at a school level? This will be an issue in every department not just science so needs dealing with appropriately. You may print graph paper but who in Maths is spending time working out how to do that too? Who in English is looking for large exercise books? Which person in each department is working out how to large print their own text books?
You get my drift?

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41399 by TecHKnow
I'm in complete agreement with AndyG here Kasey. This is NOT your job. All schools should have an SEN coordinator. It is THEIR responsibility to organise and arrange these resources.

Going back to my original answer. The specific resource, for example a text book, is collected and sent out by the SEN coordinator to a local printer. The photocopy of worksheets, it would be our reprographics technicians' responsibility to enlarge a document for this/these students.

I personally have very little to do with this. I'm too busy and they do not pay me to be assistant to the SEN cordinator who is getting paid.

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41400 by prep_room_boy
We also had such a student.

The likes of general teaching stuff was down to the SENCO. I did help out with photocopying etc. when I knew that ****** was in that class and enlarged copies (obviously if you have a separate reprographics person then it is their problem).


When it came to science equipment then I talked to the pupil and the SENCO and we came up with a set of common equipment that better suited them and made up a box of stuff just for ***** to use. We found that glassware with clear markings was better then the common plastic stuff with obscure measurements, large display timer, digital (again large display) thermometers rather than analogue Etc. The possibilities are endless and all depend on the individual. When issuing liquids it might also be useful to make sure that theirs are coloured with something inert ( I found blue ink to be quite good) so that they can see them better than a colourless liquid, certain food dyes might also work well.

Another useful thing was to build in a "Buddy" system so that they were always paired up with another student in the class who could help them out.

You need to work with the pupil and the SENCO and don't forget that the budget for all this should come from the SEN budget and not the department.

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41401 by bsimmo
As above, liaise with the SENDCO. They'll have all the advice, links and whatnots OR if it's new to them, they be able to find out. It is literally their job.
If you wish to help out, you'll need to read the EHCP to see what is specifically needed and what you may have to think about.

When it came to Science specific things, I looked up CLEAPSS, HERIB, and RNIB www.rnib.org.uk/insight-online/teaching-...ts-vision-impairment etc.
But that's so I had a background in adapting equipment, e.g. bunsen burners we would colour around the air inlet (take it apart and some paint) and then paint the cover another contrasting colour. But this was for contrast blindness.


The main part is don't guess, talk to the family, sendco and child.

Leave books and general A4 to A3 to the SEND department, unless it's a science specific resource.
For graph paper, there are websites to print all type of style out and size you want really. BUT you don't know what'll work until you talk to them. It's just a waste of time any money when you find they need something different.


Yes, we have had partially sighted here and vision and contrast etc.
and other disabilities.
I also have a disabled son, so I know what is available from the other side.
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5 months 3 weeks ago #41403 by TecHKnow
Any chance of a Wiki article on your experiences giving helpful tips Ben?

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41404 by bsimmo
It would pretty much say, talk to the child, don't guess.
Even if it's a chat out of the lesson and looking at and trying the equipment.
Digital Thermometer, large display. Even if it is only the T-bar style for meat, jam etc.
(to be honest, these should be used over spirit filled ones now for everyone, I see no point in the old types. If only I could persuade our lot. It's like moving to a multimeter once you understand the change in line scale.)

As a side:
One thing that is often overlooked (and even in tests), Colorblindness is a disability, I really wish it would be thought of as one by schools and that SEND have it referenced so teachers/technicians know.

My son's needs are quite different to Blindness, they are physical needs. But the County has people that provides resources, adaptation and advice on what to buy. They should already be in to give you advice.
It's not just the size of paper.
What about your rooms layout, the boards etc?
Can you project the IWB, if you have them, to the persons tablet for easier reading. (afaik we can't here, but then that wasn't really an option.)

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5 months 3 weeks ago #41405 by Kasey

AndyG wrote: Who is dealing with the student at a school level? This will be an issue in every department not just science so needs dealing with appropriately. You may print graph paper but who in Maths is spending time working out how to do that too? Who in English is looking for large exercise books? Which person in each department is working out how to large print their own text books?
You get my drift?


Yes I get your drift!

The Senco is a Biology teacher. We don't have a Dept, as such as all the TS's have been taken for a 'Nurture Group' of yr 7's. We are a very small school and everyone mucks in to get the job done.

She asked if 'that wonderful group of yours' had any resources they could share as she has talked to the child and determined that bold lines are needed
The child will have no support in any class and my task was just graph paper and exercise books.

Thanks for all your replies, I'll pass all the knowledge on, I think the Senco has already been in touch with the Junior school so we may get information back from them.

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5 months 3 weeks ago - 5 months 3 weeks ago #41409 by Baldilocks
Graphpap is a brilliant piece of free software that allows you to print custom paper from a laser printer.

We found this very useful especially with younger children (eg visiting yr 5 & 6) who somehow can't 'see' pale green lines at 1mm spacing. Some older kids also have dificulties with 1mm-5mm-10mm spacing (the most common).

I could print 2mm-10mm with thicker (darker) lines than usual.

Very versatile, very powerful.

www.lions.odu.edu/~rljones/Main_Files/graph_pap.htm

Just downloaded ant tried it at home. Select "Full paper" along the bottom then at top right select "Custom paper", with 0.1 then 5 then 2 for line spacing to give conventional cm graph paper spacing. Increase the 'Heavy', 'Medium', 'Light' to give the darkness that you want.

Ian

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5 months 2 weeks ago #41414 by Cookaburra
Years ago we had the same. We put coloured tape round the top of glass measuring cylinders, test tubes etc so that he could see the edges. For a stop clock we had an online version blown up to full screen using a lap top (this was before iPads). Also you can buy squat versions of measuring cylinders which made them more stable. He was doing A level Chemistry. As for printed resources, I agree that this should be sorted by SEN/Repro

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4 months 4 weeks ago #41448 by DampSquib
We have had several partially sighted pupils in my school who have been helped by some in-house adaptations. We have recently acquired a pupil in year 10 from a specialist school for the blind; we have now been asked to and have bought several gadgets etc from RNIB (I presume the pupil comes with a budget). Speaking timer & thermometers, fluorescent rubberised paint that can be felt that we have written on measuring cylinders etc. And several other things. We were initially told everything printed needs to be 36pt min, unlike the A3 enlargements for previous pupils, but we found out that actually the pupil prefers to use his tablet computer and can enlarge even more. Therefore, I am saying that it really depends on the individual pupil and their needs. Talk to whoever before investing in gadgets or printing that is not necessary and remember that the child may/ should have a budget for their education needs.
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4 months 3 weeks ago #41449 by Kasey
Thank you!

I've been told that the student needs 18pt (or 24pt, can't remember!), but can manage with ordinary graph paper blown up to A3.

Found some books and a planner from the Partially Sighted Society (as suggested by the primary school).

The student doesn't come with any money or help, so we're on our own!

Will look at RNIB.

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