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Question meeting a potential new tech

3 years 2 months ago #40038 by joyce
We have a person coming for interview. We are going to have 'tea and biscuits' with them, but will not be involved with the interview itself - what would you ask the person and what would you tell them about the place and the working conditions?

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3 years 2 months ago - 3 years 2 months ago #40039 by DampSquib
I'd check they realise the job has its bad bits, that is if they are new to school technicianing.

Reason?
One tech was interviewed by head and chaplain during the summer holidays, he thought he would be making solutions and trialling experiments all day as no mention of tidying etc. (Neither head or chaplain had any idea what the job entailed).

We were really kind to him, but when it was his turn to clean up after heart dissections (we other techs had cleaned up from a class each and I explained nicely that we had to all muck in together, so not just making him do it). He left the dirty trays all day, we were really feeling ill from the smell - finally after a sit down and home-hitting chat he got the idea. Once he made a start I then helped him and thanked him after. There were a lot of things he didn't want to do as he perceived they weren't his job because he hadn't been told about them.

Ever since then I try to meet interviewees and talk about the job (we are never involved in the interview process - why would we be, we only have to work closely with them, but there you go!)
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3 years 2 months ago #40040 by bsimmo

joyce wrote: We have a person coming for interview. We are going to have 'tea and biscuits' with them, but will not be involved with the interview itself - what would you ask the person and what would you tell them about the place and the working conditions?


I would tell them everything, they are going to be working here after all, it's best they know how it is from the start. There is nothing to hide.
Also answer any questions, if you don't know, tell them to ask at the interview (that's what it is for).

Double check they understand what T.T.O actually means and to ask what the 'actual' pay is at the interview.

Best they understand (unlike many when they start T.T.O or pro-rata style jobs) from the start, than walk out after a few weeks or month when it hits home.

I hope you take them into you labs and prep rooms to so they can 'see' the environment.

I hope they are excellent and become a great part of the Techy team.
Make sure you have a good selection of biscuits :woohoo:
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3 years 2 months ago #40041 by Cookaburra
Most job advertisements come with a job description which would itemise all those clearing up after practicals type of chores - how would anyone not realise it was part of the job.
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3 years 2 months ago #40042 by TecHKnow
Be honest. In a similar situation I told my technician "Some days are diamonds and some days are stones" :hb

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3 years 2 months ago #40043 by Mr.Physics
I think it is important that you get to spend some time with a potential new technician whether it be in a group setting or more one to one for a friendly chat. I also believe that part of the interview process should involve a good look around the labs and prep rooms.
when I have been to job interviews at other schools I was either shown around the school by students or a member of the bursary. Neither of which could show me/ answer questions of the labs, prep rooms and science department.
At some of these interviews I did get to meet the current members of the technician team (if there was one). This also helped me because i could decide if these are people I could get along with. After all you do spend more time with the technicians rather than the teachers.

D Hudson
Physics Technician
Grange School
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3 years 2 months ago - 3 years 2 months ago #40045 by Baldilocks
I think it would be a good idea, in all cases, to have moderately detailed, bullet point lists of:
A) duties (making solutions, maintaining plants, trialing experiments, repairing, ordering, etc)

B ) work flow. (start day, check lists,..)

C) overview of hours (15% pulling hair out, 10% washing up)
A careful analysis like this is a way of telling smt just what you do, as well as being essential in promotion, redundancy, job adverts etc.

Ian

Ps Sorry about the superfluous space in the second bullet point above. Trying to type B ) without the space results in B) - is this a feature or a flaw?

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3 years 2 months ago #40067 by Leigh Preece
Sometimes its good to invite whoever got the position to spend maybe a morning or day with you if they have opportunity - gets them into the role a little easier and chance to meet staff too.

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Albert Einstein

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3 years 2 months ago #40072 by joyce
We got to meet the person and had a long chat with them, showed them round etc. We thought they would be OK. However they first accepted, and then rejected the post, so we are back to square one - and wondering why they changed their mind :unsure: :(

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3 years 2 months ago #40073 by bsimmo
Ask them ?

Found out actual pay? Better offer somewhere else? Decided it just wasn't for them?

Still can't harm in asking why (and they should be asking too, so the school can see if there is a problem)

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3 years 2 months ago #40075 by joyce
tTey don't know and the person does not have to say and didn't volunteer any info. My guess they had had another interview and were waiting to hear about that job and took this one as a backup, when they got the other one they took that instead, or maybe they were offered more money if they stayed put? Who knows

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